I don't think i do well with a rollercoaster of feelings and philosophical questions.
I don't think i'm fit or able to or should live in this world.
Modern medicine can kill people. Read some of the side effects of prescriptions, some of them say " death". Not to mention how cancer treatment leaves people weak and near death, sometimes resulting in it. For a med student, you sure don't know shit. A lot of medicines are derived from plants, heres a list. Even things like fish oil, prevent things like heart disease, and vitamins help boost your immune system. Even Penicillin is derived from a fungus.I dont know who is feeding you this bullshit, but a parent should be able to decide what their children should take. A lot of the immunizations are bullshit. Does a 10 year old kid really need an immunization for Hep B? Im sure a kid that age really cares about unprotected sex and intravenous drug use.Edit - Still getting downvotes almost 3 months later.
I am actually replying to you. Not only am I a nursing student, but I have been in the medical field for several years, through rehab facilities, Alzheimers facilities, long term care units, and hospice units. I currently work at a state hospital.
People think Alternative medicine is quackery, but it has been around longer then our established medical system now. I am not saying I believe in all of it, but their are plenty of "herbs" with medicinal qualities, as well as lifestyle changes that can easily benefit a patient. Doctors seem so quick to write scripts, when there are easy things to do to lower risks of heart disease. strokes, and diabetes. But those things don't make the pharmaceutical companies money, and its much easier to take an expensive pill, with tons of side effects. The side effects are OK to, because you can just take some other pills to clear that up.Its a racket. The whole medical industry is a sham, and you will see that once you are out in the field, working. I'll give you an example, a few years ago, I was uninsured, and had to go to the hospital due to a allergic reaction. It was late at night and was afraid my throat was going to swell. I was in and out in 2 hours, and received a short doctor visit, 2 steroid tablets, and an Albuterol Breathing treatment from the RT. The 15 minute visit from the RT cost me 900 dollars, the 2 minutes from the uncaring doctor cost me another grand. He wrote me a few scripts, for some more steroids, and albuterol inhaler and 2 epi pens. The epi pens where 200 dollars a piece, and have the shelf life of a year. How is it that something so many people need, costs so much, and has such a short shelf life?
Now on to some of the vaccinations for children.
- Hep A ( Not usually serious in children under 6 )
- PC-Pnemoncoccal ( Bacterial Meningitis not normally seen after 24 months)
- HiB ( Viral meningitis not normally seen after 36 months )
- Hep B ( Like i said, What 10 year old is going to be having sex unprotected, and using iV drugs)
There is no "Right of Wrong in this" But simply another persons belief . I think it is ridiculous that someone going to med school thinks so little of alternative medicines, when so many of the medications out on the market are derived from nature.
People think Alternative medicine is quackery, but it has been around longer then our established medical system now.Who gives a shit? Longer doesn’t equal better any more than newer equals better.
I am not saying I believe in all of it, but their are plenty of "herbs" with medicinal qualities, as well as lifestyle changes that can easily benefit a patient. Doctors seem so quick to write scripts, when there are easy things to do to lower risks of heart disease. strokes, and diabetes.So in the treatment of essential hypertension and diabetes, what is the “first line” of treatment? Every single recommendation starts with lifestyle changes. Everything from increase in aerobic activity (speaking with the patient regarding what activity he/she can tolerate) to getting on a DASH diet. Now why would I still prescribe hydrochlorothiazide on the follow up visit? Because maybe about 1 in 10 patients actually implements the diet and exercise to a point where their health measurably improves. The people that do approve don’t get drugs. We don’t prescribe them drugs. Diet, exercise, and lifestyle changes are major habits that are hard to change. I get it. People don’t like to stop drinking high fructose corn syrup. So we give them medications. Now why do we give them medications?
But those things don't make the pharmaceutical companies money, and its much easier to take an expensive pill, with tons of side effects. The side effects are OK to, because you can just take some other pills to clear that up.Its a racket.So someone pointed out that “driving can result in death”. I appreciated the analogy. Regarding side effects- which in the first reply, you make a big deal out of “death” being one of them- normal saline can kill you if you push enough of it.
The whole medical industry is a sham, and you will see that once you are out in the field, working.I am working and “in the field”. And the example you give is of limited use to the discussion. I really am sorry that your doctor was uncaring and your medical bills were so high. I know it’s impossible to convey and you probably don’t believe a word of it given the fact that we tend to disagree on a few things, but I’m with you on this. Healthcare costs are too high for a number of reasons. The pharmaceutical industry, which spends more on advertising than RnD, marks the shit out of drug prices while their competitors scramble to find an isomer. Patients are disconnected from the “supply and demand” of healthcare and not able to control their own costs because treatments are decided for them based on medical indication and insurers can screw them (and the doc) over essentially whenever they feel like it. Insurance is hard for people with chronic illnesses, who need it most, to get if they’ve lost it at some point. Hospitals are for-profit machines that cash in billions. And docs order too much stuff in order to find a zebra within the herd of horses and partly to keep their asses from being sued. You want me to defend the system? Hah.
Hep A ( Not usually serious in children under 6 )You’re right. And it’s only given to kids with endemic risk. My region doesn’t give it as part of the routine schedule. That being said, the case-fatality rate for Hep A in kids younger than 14 is 0.3% compared to 0.1% in young adults (15-29). Hep A isn’t partuclarly endemic to the US. However in countries where the disease is prevalent, such as Latin America, it accounts for 60% of liver failure- of which 30% will die.
PC-Pnemoncoccal ( Bacterial Meningitis not normally seen after 24 months)Since the introduction of the PC vaccine the incidence of invasive pneumococcal disease has declined by 60-90% in children LESS than 24 months of age.
HiB ( Viral meningitis not normally seen after 36 months )This has been dealt with.
Hep B ( Like i said, What 10 year old is going to be having sex unprotected, and using iv drugs)Let’s talk Hepatitis B.
Thanks for standing up for sanity Broba. My mother and grandmother tried to brainwash me and my siblings with that homeopathic alternative BS for years. I quickly saw through it, but my little sister wasn't so lucky. Then she noticed a lump in her breast at 26. And guess where my mom took her for treatment. That's right. The witch doctor's office.
When she told us my dad (long divorced from my mom) and I begged and pleaded for her to go see an oncologist. They flat out refused for 8 months, instead electing for vitamin C infusions and a bunch of other nonsense. I explained to both of them that if this was really cancer then this was killing her. But they'd say, "you just don't understand." 8 months later the afflicted breast had more than doubled in size. We're talking A cup on one side D on the other. Not until the tumor burst through the skin did they finally go to the hospital. Of course by then it was way too late.
The doctor we spoke too said that they only saw untreated cases this bad in the homeless and old people with dementia. My sister died days after her 28th birthday of one of the most treatable forms of cancer because she believed in their bullshit. Fuck alternative medicine and the charlatans who sell it.